
The Animal-Free Science Advocacy podcast interviews leading experts, animal advocates, healthcare consumers and leaders in the areas of scientific research, animal sentience, animal law, animal ethics, animal law and conservation to gain a diverse range of perspectives on the critical issue of using animals in research in Australia.
The podcast discusses the urgent necessity to phase out animal use in research and teaching and highlights alternative methods to using animals which deliver more accurate research results, without the unnecessary suffering of animals.Â
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Paula Wallace: Rehoming Animals from Research

In this episode, Rachel welcomes Paula Wallace, Founder and Director of the Liberty Foundation Australia to discuss the inspiring mission of her organisation. Liberty Foundation is at the forefront of creating a viable transition for domestic animals from research facilities into loving homes. Tune in as Paula unfolds the foundation’s progress, challenges, and future aspirations, including the exciting opening of a rehoming centre on the Central Coast of New South Wales.
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Nicole Groch: Cruelty-Free Beauty

Nicole Groch, Australian Programs Manager at Cruelty Free International and a vegan hair and makeup artist, shares insights on ending animal testing globally, the rigorous Leaping Bunny certification process, and the evolution of cruelty-free and vegan products. She discusses the transformative impact of major Australian brands like Kmart and Sukin committing to cruelty-free practices. Nicole’s personal and professional journey highlights the power of consumer choices in driving industry change, and offers practical tips for identifying genuinely cruelty-free products. Tune in to learn how your choices can support a cruelty-free future.
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Andrew Costello: IMRA

Andrew Costello, Strategic Consultant to the International Medical Robotics Academy (IMRA) discusses the benefits of non-animal surgical training methods and outlines IMRA’s world-leading training programs and high-fidelity synthetic models.
Find out more about IMRA on their website.
Read AFSA’s web resource on surgical training.
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Maddie Krasno: Justify

Maddie holds a master’s degree in Humane Education and has worked in animal protection for over a decade. During her undergraduate education, Maddie worked for two years at the University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Harlow Primate Research Laboratory and was later diagnosed with PTSD as a result. Maddie discusses her experiences and the organisation she has co-founded, Justify. Maddie hopes Justify will establish greater transparency in the animal research industry and become the community she wishes she had when she left the primate lab in 2013.
Dr Pandora Pound: Research Director Safer Medicines Trust

Dr Pandora Pound is Research Director at the Safer Medicines Trust. Dr Pound has written numerous influential papers on the scientific drawbacks of using animals as models for humans. Her newly published book ‘Rat Trap’ is a must-read.
Safer Medicines Trust: https://safermedicines.org
The Rat Trap: https://animalfreescienceadvocacy.org.au/product/rat-trap-by-dr-pandora-pound/
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Savita Nutan: Former Researcher, Educator and Founder of Medicine Without Cruelty

Sarah Margo interview: "This space feels hopeful"

Animal-Free Science Advocacy CEO Rachel Smith interviews Sarah Margo, an expert in animal law on her perspective of the failings of the Australian regulatory system surrounding animals in science.
Sarah is Policy Advisor to the Hon. Emma Hurst MLC of the Animal Justice Party, Animal Law Teaching Fellow at UNSW and Director of Voiceless, the Animal Protection Institute and an Animal Law and Policy Consultant.
Watch the episode on YouTube.Clinical Researcher Nisha Narang: On ending animal-derived medical products ​

Dr Hugo Morandini: A vision for clinical neuroscience without animals

Dr Denise Russell: Are Animal Ethics Committees effective?

Rosemary Lavin: "What I've learned over 50 years as an animal advocate"

Animal-free alternatives to cruel animal dissection in Australian schools

Belinda: Living with a life-threatening illness and remaining opposed to animal experimentation

Animal-Free Science Advocacy's CEO Rachel: The questionable ethics behind the forced smoke inhalation tests

Animal-Free Science Advocacy's Science Consultant Natalie: Why we need to transition away from forced inhalation tests

A short history of the courageous Anti-Vivisection Movement
